Hi All
I am extremely new to world of CNC. We have just recieved our machine from Quick CNC the machine is set up with a
Syntec controller, Manuel Tool Change with a auto touch off tool sensor. We will be using V carve pro.
In v carve/aspire the installed post processors for syntec are for auto tool change machines, and we are confused how a manual tool change would be specified in the post processor.
We prefer not to have seperate toolpath files for each tool used in a job.
Is there any information on how manual tool changers are done between toolpaths in 1 file?
In lay terms, we would like the machine to run the tool path with the first tool then return home, wait whilst we perform a manual tool change then on the press of a "continue button", the tool sensing will commence and continue with the next tool path in the file.
It appears this may of been done with the "shop bot machine" but not real sure???
Any help would be great
Thanks
Anthony
postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
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Re: postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
Hello Anthony,
From the point of view of the code output from VCarve Pro, there would be
no difference between the code output for a manual tool change or an
Automatic Tool Change, but your control or control software would need to
support a manual tool change.
(I.E. know what to do when a Tool Change command is received).
For example, Mach3 has an option to pause the program, stop the spindle
and wait for a cycle start before continuing with the next toolpath.
Provided that your control is set up in a similar fashion, it should work with the
standard ATC post.
Your machine supplier should be able to tell you the code format required for
a tool change.
I hope that this helps,
Cheers,
Mark.
From the point of view of the code output from VCarve Pro, there would be
no difference between the code output for a manual tool change or an
Automatic Tool Change, but your control or control software would need to
support a manual tool change.
(I.E. know what to do when a Tool Change command is received).
For example, Mach3 has an option to pause the program, stop the spindle
and wait for a cycle start before continuing with the next toolpath.
Provided that your control is set up in a similar fashion, it should work with the
standard ATC post.
Your machine supplier should be able to tell you the code format required for
a tool change.
I hope that this helps,
Cheers,
Mark.
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Re: postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
he may not have the support of syntec on this as the chinese are kinda slow, i would suggest as i have seen many purchasers of this equipment do to switch to the mach three controller as in time he will probably want to do eventually
Re: postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
Hello Mark
So if i understand, given the syntec is set up same as mach system,
when the command for auto tool change is given our mahine would return to home
and await a manual tool change
Is this correct?
IS there a way to test this?
Thanks
Anthony
So if i understand, given the syntec is set up same as mach system,
when the command for auto tool change is given our mahine would return to home
and await a manual tool change
Is this correct?
IS there a way to test this?
Thanks
Anthony
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Re: postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
you can test this yet normally it will have this set up in the post processor, or in machs case be set up in the controller. not sure syntec will but if you try the atc and it will not work it should just give a fault notice and stop,, i would hate to think it will attempt an atc command and not find a tool !!
Re: postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
Hi
Ok so i guess we need to find out how the machine has been programed when given the M06 coomand?? is the right
on something slighty different, when we have 2 toolpaths in the one program, are we to give each
tool a different tool number even thought it isnt an actually auto tool change/holder.
When i try to save tool paths in v carve it wont let me save, keeps telling me something like this
both tools have same number yet differnet specs
So i assume each tool must be numbered eg tool 1 tool 2 and so on???
Ok so i guess we need to find out how the machine has been programed when given the M06 coomand?? is the right
on something slighty different, when we have 2 toolpaths in the one program, are we to give each
tool a different tool number even thought it isnt an actually auto tool change/holder.
When i try to save tool paths in v carve it wont let me save, keeps telling me something like this
both tools have same number yet differnet specs
So i assume each tool must be numbered eg tool 1 tool 2 and so on???
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Re: postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
Hello redvanth,
I mentioned Mach3 as an example. I am afraid that I have no specific knowledge
regarding the control that you have, as to whether it supports the use of
multiple tools in a single file.
A number of the "Evaluation files to machine" that ship with the trial edition
of VCarve Pro have multiple toolpaths that require different tools.
(The "Open Sign" for example).
You can use some of the toolpaths from these files to test out the
toolchange procedure on your particular machine.
Yes, each different tool must have a unique number. It is this number that the
control or control software uses to identify which to to select.
If you are unsure of the capabilities of the machine, the best people to talk
to first would be the company that sold you the machine.
I hope that this helps.
Cheers,
Mark.
I mentioned Mach3 as an example. I am afraid that I have no specific knowledge
regarding the control that you have, as to whether it supports the use of
multiple tools in a single file.
A number of the "Evaluation files to machine" that ship with the trial edition
of VCarve Pro have multiple toolpaths that require different tools.
(The "Open Sign" for example).
You can use some of the toolpaths from these files to test out the
toolchange procedure on your particular machine.
Yes, each different tool must have a unique number. It is this number that the
control or control software uses to identify which to to select.
If you are unsure of the capabilities of the machine, the best people to talk
to first would be the company that sold you the machine.
I hope that this helps.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Re: postprocessor for Syntec manhine manual tool change
the syntec controller is widely disscussed on cnczone
many of the excitec router owners in australia use it
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/commercia ... d_routers/
many of the excitec router owners in australia use it
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/commercia ... d_routers/