How to spoil your hard work

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How to spoil your hard work

Post by Ms Wolffie »

I have been making a sign and was going to be paid for it (First paid for job)
The timber was air dried local hardwood and was to have natural edges.
I planed it, used a slurry of putty to seal all cracks then carved the name.
I sprayed reflective silver in the bottom of the letters and then a layer of liquid glass to make it weatherproof.
Then I planed the surface again to remove the overspray.
It really looked good and I loved the spalting of the timber.
Today I gave it a coating of Golden Oak stain. I had already done stain testing and golden oak really made the spalting pop.
I could have cried. The stain found some fine veins in the timber and seeped under and through the silver paint.
It looks like the letters are bleeding :cry: :cry: :cry:

Note to self:
Stain and seal BEFORE applying paint. Be careful with overspray.
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Re: How to spoil your hard work

Post by bravesoul »

Ms Wolffie,

I feel your pain, I had this happen on several occasions even on a piece that I used sanding sealer on first, prior to doing anything. I now know that the piece really needs to be sealed good and like others have said, you then only need to clean off any overspray or stain with a damp cloth. I used to learn something new everyday but now that I am much older (very old, lol) I learn something new every week.

Joe

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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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AAWW come on, you are only a puppy yet.
I read the other day, that you are elderly if you are over 80.
Not long to go for me :lol:
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Re: How to spoil your hard work

Post by COWBOY1296 »

Sealing was a pain for me to get use to. So much bleeding and so many project ruined.

But let me ask another question here regarding sealing. I have some outdoor signs to make that will be hung in a harsh environment. My plan is to use sikkens log and siding for the finish. Since sikkens does not play well with other finishes, should i seal the board with it and if so will it sand well to remove the marsch stencil ink. or is there another sealer that i should use.

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Pics or it didn't happen !
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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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bravesoul wrote:Ms Wolffie,

I feel your pain, I had this happen on several occasions even on a piece that I used sanding sealer on first, prior to doing anything. I now know that the piece really needs to be sealed good and like others have said, you then only need to clean off any overspray or stain with a damp cloth. I used to learn something new everyday but now that I am much older (very old, lol) I learn something new every week.

Joe
Paint and stain bleeding was a real problem for me also, however I do not use my machine for sign making but primarily as a hobby tool.

I have found a technique that works 99% of the time for me;
I only work with hardwoods, the softer species tend to exhibit more capillary action lending them to bleeding
I rough cut the entire surface to within .050" of the finish surface and then seal everything
Once the seal has dried I engrave in a normal fashion and then apply another seal coat over the newly engraved area
Color of choice applied to engraved or recessed areas
Finish path as normal, sand as required and apply the final clear (seal) coat

This works for me, but may not be suitable for all applications. And yes, I have also ruined more work than I care to admit to.

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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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xxray, if you were asking me that question regarding pictures, this is a future project. so it has not been done yet.

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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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COWBOY1296 wrote:xxray, if you were asking me that question regarding pictures, this is a future project. so it has not been done yet.
No Xxray want's to see the pictures of the spoiled job that Wolffie first posted about, Like he says if proof can't be provided then did she really do it or is it just a story :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mind the pictures have to be in colour for them to count :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've got a section on my facebook page for Work Development where I do some experimenting & post pictures on there good or bad.

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Re: How to spoil your hard work

Post by COWBOY1296 »

I NEVER MAKE MISTAKES, thats why i take so few pictures. You believe me dont you.

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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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Not me Cowboy:) :D
I've learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone,so you have to please yourself
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I never make mistakes. I make a lot of unplanned improvements though ... :D

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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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Same her C1... lot's of meant to do it THIS WAY and spaced it. :D
I've learned my lesson well. You can't please everyone,so you have to please yourself
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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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Lets just say that i have learned to edit while on the fly

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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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I take pics of my mistakes, come on Wolfie, you can do it too !

Image
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Re: How to spoil your hard work

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For me, those are remediable oversights.

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