Will you (Vectric Community) , please, confer your opinion for the market value on the following proposed technology? (please accept my neophyte lexicon)
Problem description:
Occasionally a fault will inflict a “restart” during a 3-axis mill execution. The restart software/firmware obliterates the X,Y,Z origin information. A restart necessitates:
1) Replacement of starting material(wood, metal, plastic)
2) Excision process re-start from time zero.
Another case where “origin loss” occurs is when you detach work from anchorage. If you wish to resume mill work, you must re-create X,Y,Z information on excision implement (end-mill) and the X,Y,Z information on the unfinished work piece.
Market question:
If I find a restart immune preservation technique for the X,Y,Z information (accuracy <0p1mm ) in the starting material (plastic, metal, wood,G10) would I have a valuable technology worthy of a patent application? Does the market place already offer facile remedies for the above described problems?
John
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- Adrian
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Re: Market_Idea
XYZ origin isn't lost on my machine if I restart the software. Also if there is an error it recovers the XYZ as they are closed loop steppers. Full servo motors know where they are as well so don't lose position.
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Re: Market_Idea
Like Adrian, XYZ origin is not lost on my machine. Even if I did lose XYZ I can re-home using my limit switches with extremely high and repeatable accuracy.
Edge finders are available for repositioning material.
Edge finders are available for repositioning material.
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Re: Market_Idea
I thank you for your replies,
How common is the following scenario?
Machine A completes an excision process (EG milling) to satisfaction. The work piece must be transferred to Machine B for further high precision mechanical operations.
The only example I can think of is printed circuit manufacturing.
Step 1: Printed board generation (photolithography, followed by excision (milling) of board mounting features.
Step 2: Surface mount component attachments (a.k.a pick and place operations)
Do you know of other markets (or CNC applications) where work reattachment on a different machine requires regeneration of precise X,Y,Z coordinate generation?
John
How common is the following scenario?
Machine A completes an excision process (EG milling) to satisfaction. The work piece must be transferred to Machine B for further high precision mechanical operations.
The only example I can think of is printed circuit manufacturing.
Step 1: Printed board generation (photolithography, followed by excision (milling) of board mounting features.
Step 2: Surface mount component attachments (a.k.a pick and place operations)
Do you know of other markets (or CNC applications) where work reattachment on a different machine requires regeneration of precise X,Y,Z coordinate generation?
John
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Not meaning to be rude, but it is pretty obvious you are not familiar with modern manufacturing techniques.
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Re: Market_Idea
There are a thousand ways to transfer your coordinates to another machine if you have to move your workpiece.
Any machine worth buying has limit switches and will maintain its XYZ home coordinates (or local coordinates) if the machine is shut down.
For cheap machines that do not, you can buy things like the triple edge finder or use a probe to find exact coordinates. Since those machines are always losing steps, its good to have something like that to re-zero.
Any machine worth buying has limit switches and will maintain its XYZ home coordinates (or local coordinates) if the machine is shut down.
For cheap machines that do not, you can buy things like the triple edge finder or use a probe to find exact coordinates. Since those machines are always losing steps, its good to have something like that to re-zero.
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