Toolpath using a level
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Toolpath using a level
I'm beginning to think that I'm crazy or everyone else thinks I am. I sent the problem file to Vectric support and they replied that it looked okay to them. I also uploaded here yesterday. I calculated a toolpath using a level then moved everything slightly up and to the left. Then recalculated and reset the preview. A residual of the previous toolpath remained in the new preview. This happens with any file that has a toolpath calculated using a level. Maybe a video will help illustrate the problem. Here is the link.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j1C8qB ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j1C8qB ... sp=sharing
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Re: Toolpath using a level
One thing I didn't see is you pressing the REST PREVIEW
Please post the file
Please post the file
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Re: Toolpath using a level
Scroll down further I think you will find you have two toolpaths, one for the original position and one for the move.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
Here is the link to the file I posted yesterday. Try it and see if it does the same for you. If you just recalculate and then preview you will not see any change but after moving everything and recalculating you will see the problem. If you add a vector boundary and then use it to recalculate the toolpath there isn't any problem so it must have something to do with using a level for calculating a toolpath.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1inSJkg ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1inSJkg ... sp=sharing
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Re: Toolpath using a level
So I ran your file and did what I think you did and I got the same results as you did.
I created my own model created a toolpath based on its level and moved it, recalculated it the way you did and DID NOT get the same result.
First off what version of the software? I'm using 11.008.
I have to think it is something unique to your model. I will continue to play with your mode.
Hopefully some of our real wizards will chime in.
I created my own model created a toolpath based on its level and moved it, recalculated it the way you did and DID NOT get the same result.
First off what version of the software? I'm using 11.008.
I have to think it is something unique to your model. I will continue to play with your mode.
Hopefully some of our real wizards will chime in.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
So I think we have a vectric problem.
On the level you are creating your toolpath from you have a copy, but it is not visible.
I moved that copy to a new level hiding and recalculated the toolpaths and moved it and recalculated and it worked as expected.
The reason I say it is a vectric problem is in the past if a component was not visible it was not included in the toolpath. Yours is doing that.
The other indicators are the bottom tabs are not being cut correctly unless you move your invisible copy to another level not visible.
I will try in 10.515 and try to see if it does it there and get back to you.
On the level you are creating your toolpath from you have a copy, but it is not visible.
I moved that copy to a new level hiding and recalculated the toolpaths and moved it and recalculated and it worked as expected.
The reason I say it is a vectric problem is in the past if a component was not visible it was not included in the toolpath. Yours is doing that.
The other indicators are the bottom tabs are not being cut correctly unless you move your invisible copy to another level not visible.
I will try in 10.515 and try to see if it does it there and get back to you.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
It does it in 10.515 too.
This is not my understanding of how invisible components are suppose to work.
Help Vectric, I suggest you send the support group this file and reference this post.
This is not my understanding of how invisible components are suppose to work.
Help Vectric, I suggest you send the support group this file and reference this post.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
I reread your original post and see that you already sent it to Vectric.
So Vectric are invisible components on a level suppose to be included in that toolpath?
This is counter to how I thought your software worked.
If it is included what is the point of making it invisible?
Inquiring minds would appreciate some insights.
So Vectric are invisible components on a level suppose to be included in that toolpath?
This is counter to how I thought your software worked.
If it is included what is the point of making it invisible?
Inquiring minds would appreciate some insights.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
John,
You are exactly correct. The copy in the toolpath level is where I combined the components using "Create Component From Visible Model". I did as you and just deleted the invisable model and it seemed to have fixed the problem. However, it shouldn't be that way. Models that are not visible should not be calculated in the toolpath. Thank you very much for looking at the problem.
You are exactly correct. The copy in the toolpath level is where I combined the components using "Create Component From Visible Model". I did as you and just deleted the invisable model and it seemed to have fixed the problem. However, it shouldn't be that way. Models that are not visible should not be calculated in the toolpath. Thank you very much for looking at the problem.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
Just need to gets Vectric's attention now.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
I tried but they didn't deem to be interested enough to research the problem as you did. Attached is the screen shot of the toolpath that I sent to them. This was their response.
Mark Moran (Vectric Ltd.)
Oct 21, 2021, 11:52 GMT+1
Hello Steve,
Many thanks for the reply.
Could you point out the section that you think is related to the old toolpath in the preview, please.
I am afraid that the toolpath looks as I would expect it to look.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Mark.
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Vectric Ltd | Precision House| 2 Arden Road
Alcester | Warwickshire | B49 6HN | United Kingdom
Mark Moran (Vectric Ltd.)
Oct 21, 2021, 11:52 GMT+1
Hello Steve,
Many thanks for the reply.
Could you point out the section that you think is related to the old toolpath in the preview, please.
I am afraid that the toolpath looks as I would expect it to look.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Mark.
Mark MORAN.
Vectric Ltd | Precision House| 2 Arden Road
Alcester | Warwickshire | B49 6HN | United Kingdom
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Re: Toolpath using a level
The clue for me was the bottom tabs being cut out!
That is when I knew something was wrong.
You put the tabs on a different level (as you are suppose to) and they should not look like the bottom tabs in your preview.
Hopefully one of the Beta testers will flag this issue to vectric.
That is when I knew something was wrong.
You put the tabs on a different level (as you are suppose to) and they should not look like the bottom tabs in your preview.
Hopefully one of the Beta testers will flag this issue to vectric.
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Re: Toolpath using a level
Want more proof I just turned off all components on the toolpath level and look what it did!
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Re: Toolpath using a level
I just copied the forum post number and sent it to Vectric support.
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