3D graphics card performance expectations with Aspire

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3D graphics card performance expectations with Aspire

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Hello everyone,

I have recently downloaded Aspire 10.502 and have been in the process of transitioning to a new laptop. My old desktop pc is still working perfectly, just getting up there in years. So my idea was to compare the old pc desktop performance with the new laptop performance using Aspire. Writing this out you probably guessed I am not thrilled with the new laptop performance, at least with Aspire.

Old desktop:
32bit intel core 2 quad cpu Q6600 @ 2.4 ghz
4gb system ram
Nvidia gforce gt 430 video
Windows 7 home premium

New laptop:
64 bit intel i9-8950 @ 2.9 ghz
16 gb system ram
Intel uhd graphics 630 video
Amd radeon pro wx4150 4gb video
Windows 10 pro


What i am finding is my old desktop pc is a little more than twice as fast when performing a finish pass preview.

Is it safe to say the new amd video card is not helping, so I am really comparing the old gforce dedicated card to the new intel uhd 630? Or should i expect the new amd to help out?

Any pointers are appreciated.
Stephen R.

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Re: 3D graphics card performance expectations with Aspire

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I guess the big question is if the Radeon is actually handling the graphics?

That said, it seems to me that the preview function speed is dependent on how fast the software calculates the pixel (more like voxels if you ask me) matrix. That is not really a graphics function. It would annoy me to no end if I bought a faster computer and things slowed down, that is for sure.
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Hi Stephen,

The software is currently using software renderer so your graphics card should have no impact on the performance.
Please check if both of your computers use the same preview quality. Any difference here can have a huge impact on timing.

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Ok ty. I will check the preview quality. Its easy to overlook all the settings.

In no way am i pointing blame at the software or hardware, I am just trying to figure out realistic expectations.

My new laptop was configured for other 3D parametric modeling software, so my assumption was it should be fine for Aspire. So this is just one comparison which could have been skewed by me choosing different settings. So I will double check.

This post has already proven helpful. Ty.

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Hi Stephen,

Your problem could be that your AMD graphics card does not support DirectX.
Compare yours with this one.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/profess ... 100-mobile

You do not have the software API Support

I always recommend using an Nvidia graphics card for CAD / CAM.
You can be sure that everything will be supported. OpenGL, DirectX,
OpenCL and Vulkan.

The only disadvantages are that you can not play well with it.

Edit:
I think I was too slow :)
Greg writes that they are using software rendering.

Dieter
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The other thing that comes to mind is power saving mode. Some laptops will scale down processor frequency on the default settings even if connected to power supply. That my obviously affect the performance. You can check on the Performance tab in the task manager and see if frequency goes up to the advertised value when Aspire is previewing the toolpath.

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Also, with laptops with both onboard graphics and a separate card, you may need to specify which adapter to use with each software. If you don't force it to use the faster card, it may default to onboard graphics. But it really shouldn't have any difference.
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Thank you for all the replies.

I just checked both computers and my laptop installed Aspire had the toolpath preview simulation quality set at maximum and my desktop pc installed Aspire was set to very high.

So I ran my unscientific test again with both set to very high and the new laptop won by a mile. Maybe 3-4x as fast as the old pc. I didnt time it because the progress bar at the bottom is an easy way to compare.

Lesson learned, and I dont have to worry about the money I spent : )

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Lesson learned, and I don't have to worry about the money I spent : )
Thanks for the follow-up.
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