Sandpaper grits...now the same on the pond:)

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Sandpaper grits...now the same on the pond:)

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May be old news to some, but nice to see a simple article from my Abranet supplier...
(IF you haven't used a micro mesh sandpaper with a HEPA vac yet...check it out....
coffee cup test is Great(coffee cup with no dust on top in 2 hours) !!)
Haven't used regular sandpaper in 5 yrs except to use it up mainly...flexible for hand as well as scraps are usable. Blow out on hand sanding makes it usable for virtually years..even wet sanding a 90 psi blowout is good(but I keep comparable wood colors separate in Zip-locks).
Abranet is super flexible, 400-600G won't really touch fine VCarves, but is great for fuzzies and edge lift!
IF oil finish and looking for a burnished look(pre 1920's) then 600G gives it to you in a few seconds if using a 5" RO. (Burnished and oiled WAS the State of the Art for centuries:) )
Rambling on one of my pet favorites again :oops: :oops:
IF your finish requires a "Tooth" ignore my comments :oops:

Just thought the standard for both was a good "Integrator" for both sides of the "Pond".
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Abranet looks like a good product. Not so thrilled with the price of the sander.
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Yep Steve....out of my price range also...
BUT have a friend in a body shop that swears By them and At other brands.
They're using the pneumatics though because of the fumes. (they actually argue over the Mirkas :) )...
as the vibration is less. But then friend uses grits into the thousandths on cars.
Wish I could try one of the 5" electrics though....after having 2 new "Made in Polynesia" RO's die in a year.
I refurbed a cheap Dewalt Dad had used for a year before he died....must been a cheapo though(shelved).
Back to using a 20 yr old Bosch D handle that I used on the house for wet sanding 6,000bf of cherry trim.
Gets to be a bit heavy on my teeny stuff at shoulder height in the 'Chair though.
Any good recommendations for a decent lightweight 5" RO that will last a few yrs??
WAS a dedicated Bosch user till last two 5" RO's .
scott

BTW...Abranet(abralon etc.) fabric on the discs is Not fantastic for rough edges in pockets like a raised font.
Can catch an edge and rip fabric fairly easily if not perfectly flush. Still scraps are good for yrs.

Smart to get an asstd. mix to start and see if you like it like I did.
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Gets to be a bit heavy on my teeny stuff at shoulder height in the 'Chair though.
If you have compressed air in your shop have you considered an air sander so you aren't swinging around the motor all the time?
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Thought about it Randall, but even though compressor is in garage proper...even through the wall,
It's Still the loudest tool in the shop.
Thanks!
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dealguy11 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:59 pm
Abranet looks like a good product. Not so thrilled with the price of the sander.
It is a great product and I didn't buy the sander. I have an el cheapo Bosch RO with the dust collection through the holes in the pad and Abraner works really well. My issue is with the Bosch pads and the hook pad wearing out but that was an issue before I started using Abranet.

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Well I don't think I will be trying it in a hurry based on these prices on my side of the pond :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Just to add a little fodder to this discussion. :D
I too was frustrated with the noise level from my air compressor especially when it when turn on expectantly. Can you say jumpy in my old age.
Check out these from California Air Compressor. https://www.californiaairtools.com/
The one I purchased has a rating of only 56db. It is fantastic!!

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My 2 cents- I was using a Porter Cable compressor, the loudest machine in my shop, then took a trip to HF and picked up their Fortress “ultra quiet “. When I turned it on I was really surprised how quiet it really was. A BIG difference
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Air sanders are nice - we use Dynabrades in our cabinet shop - but many (most?) of them have no dust collection. I'm using a Makita 5" sander in my home shop - haven't used it enough yet to have an opinion on life of the tool.
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but many (most?) of them have no dust collection
Do you have a downdraft table, or what do you do for dust control?
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Dust masks and an air cleaner at the moment. A downdraft table would be helpful and is on the list.
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I'm using a Festool 5" (ETS 125). It works great and has good dust collection. These are professional grade sanders so all parts are easily and quickly replaceable. A little pricey but the sandpaper is reasonable and has a large range of grits.
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This air compressor discussion was surprisingly timely since my 2 year old Porter Cable 30 gallon compressor just developed two cracks in the tank where the wheel supports were welded.

I'm checking if it is covered under their 3 year warranty, but if it isn't then my wife and daughter enthusiastically support the idea of a quieter replacement compressor.
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Jim_Nestor wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:08 pm
My 2 cents- I was using a Porter Cable compressor, the loudest machine in my shop, then took a trip to HF and picked up their Fortress “ultra quiet “. When I turned it on I was really surprised how quiet it really was. A BIG difference
Jim
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+1 ....
I use a "real" compressor in the shop but have such a HF double rocker piston in the garage. Super quiet.
I was wondering to buy another one and replace my GAST and Thomson vacuum pumps for hold down. Same technology, more power and as cheap as refurbished GAST on eBay.

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