pizza oven mould

[Brandon Collins]

Hi Does anyone know if this can be created in Vcarve pro or is it an Aspire thing. If anyone has done this before would be interested in any files pictures ETC

TIA

[TReischl]

It is definitely an Aspire thing. Maybe. Things like that are best done in 3D modeling software. That is not a slam on Aspire.

A couple of weeks ago I posted about a vase that I made using similar construction. Layering and segmenting. Well, maybe a month ago. I included a PDF file that described the technique in detail.

OK, that said, it can also be done if you have software that allows you to model. I created mine in Rhino. It is quite the undertaking and organization is key.

[sharkcutup]

Pizza Oven Doorway with 12.5" opening (can be scaled larger if needed)

Here is the Pizza Oven Door created in V-Carve Pro v10

Sharkcutup

[TReischl]

Doing the door is the easy part, nothing to it.

When you get to the inside of the oven things get a lot more interesting. If you look at those rings they have to be cut as a two sided job. Also note that they are not simple circles.

The reason I said this is best handled in 3D modeling software is that I can design that thing in less than a few hours as a solid. Then when it is sliced each slice can be exported as an STL. The rest is accomplished in Vectric using standard two sided techniques. Stuff like this is exactly why the wizards at Vectric HQ included to ability to import models from other software.

I suppose a person could torture themselves and figure out some convoluted way of producing it and probably need psycho therapy afterwards.

[Brandon Collins]

surely the easy way is to make it as two halves that join together so would be one sided job. SO could you bring in a sketch up model?

Doing the door is the easy part, nothing to it.

When you get to the inside of the oven things get a lot more interesting. If you look at those rings they have to be cut as a two sided job. Also note that they are not simple circles.

The reason I said this is best handled in 3D modeling software is that I can design that thing in less than a few hours as a solid. Then when it is sliced each slice can be exported as an STL. The rest is accomplished in Vectric using standard two sided techniques. Stuff like this is exactly why the wizards at Vectric HQ included to ability to import models from other software.

I suppose a person could torture themselves and figure out some convoluted way of producing it and probably need psycho therapy afterwards.

[sharkcutup]

Hey Ted,

No model is needed it can be accomplished all in one-sided operations. Think about it! Think it through! It is just a mold!

I'd sure like to see you create a model that is sliced!!! "Few Hours" you say! Let's see it!!!

Sharkcutup

[TReischl]

Just a little over an hour cause I got off on the wrong foot.

And no, this is NOT a one sided job. Take a close look at the slices on the oven itself.

If you can do those undercuts from one side you have a better machine than I do.

[sharkcutup]

Bravo!!! But it is not sliced

I can do it all one-sided!!! And I will prove it!

Sharkcutup

[TReischl]

And here are the slices you wanted to see.

I am really curious to see how you are going to do those rings on the oven itself from one side.

BTW, my post was at 1:00 PM It is now a bit after 2:00 PM.

[JimmyD]

Bravo!!! But it is not sliced

I can do it all one-sided!!! And I will prove it!

Sharkcutup

I am with Ted, I don't believe this can be done one sided, unless you do not have a continuously smooth surface on either the inside or outside. I make lots of moulds and if you can do it, you should patent the method.

Jim

[TReischl]

surely the easy way is to make it as two halves that join together so would be one sided job. SO could you bring in a sketch up model?

Not quite sure where you would split it to make it a one sided job?

One of the problems I have is with the pictures. I do quite a bit of mold making for my wife and her clay habit. Why that model is all hollowed out is curious. If she were packing the clay on the outside of that form I would not bother finishing up the inside at all so then all the slices could be made one sided. But then there are molds that she pours that have a wall thickness and have to separate easily.

As far as I can tell it has to be sliced no matter what because the size and side slopes are too steep for normal tooling.

Interesting project though, would like to hear more about it from you?

[DJ-Bino]

Hello,
I'm here on the side of Ted and Jim too
You will not be able to process all parts unilaterally
latest at the end of the oven will definitely be
Must work on both sides.

take a look at the pictures of the oven
especially at the front of the door and then at the end.
The arch is not exactly 180 degrees either, so you have undercuts

I get popcorn and coffee

Best regrads
Dieter

[sharkcutup]

https://www.instructables.com/id/My-135 ... izza-Oven/

I like this one too! It is easy and cheap to make!

Sharkcutup

[sharkcutup]

I have my design nearly finished and it has dawned on me as to as how this particular mold pictured (in Op's first post) is to be used!

Can I ask all of you why there is such a concern for smoothness inside this mold?

Correct me if I am wrong! --- Isn't the actual Pizza Oven created/formed around the outside of this mold?

Sharkcutup

[TReischl]

I have my design nearly finished and it has dawned on me as to as how this particular mold pictured (in Op's first post) is to be used!

Can I ask all of you why there is such a concern for smoothness inside this mold?

Correct me if I am wrong! --- Isn't the actual Pizza Oven created/formed around the outside of this mold?

Sharkcutup

Who expressed concern for the inside of the mold? The OP posted a pic, the inside appears to be smooth, and he wants to know how to do it. He did not ask any of us to re-engineer it. If you look closely at the second picture you will notice that the mold appears to come apart into at least three pieces. That tells me the inside is the molding surface. If the material were on the outside it would not be possible to separate those pieces. If you look REAL close you will see that they have an overlapped join.

Now, you said you had a way to cut the rings as pictured from one side. We would all like to see that method.

BTW, when you wrote "It is just a mold." I was surprised. When it comes to tool and die work, molds are among the most difficult tools to build. Sure, if you are doing Springerle molds for cookies they are no big deal.

Maybe you are the one who needs to (as you wrote above):

"Think about it! Think it through!"

Edit: See later posts, I am pretty sure we are looking at a pattern for casting.