Yearning for Purple Heart
Yearning for Purple Heart
After cutting my teeth for quite a long time with MDF, too frightened to progress, but progress I must. So my next stage up as it were was to dabble in Oak and Mahogany.
My ambition is to one day work with "PURPLE HEART". (I love the look of this timber)
What milling characteristics would I need to employ when working with this exotic lumber in regards to feeds and speeds.
I would use this only for embellishments and details rather than full pieces.
Any educational comments appreciated
Regards
C
My ambition is to one day work with "PURPLE HEART". (I love the look of this timber)
What milling characteristics would I need to employ when working with this exotic lumber in regards to feeds and speeds.
I would use this only for embellishments and details rather than full pieces.
Any educational comments appreciated
Regards
C
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Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
I used the same feeds and speeds that I used for walnut. Be aware that the purple color changes to brown over time.
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Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
Just to add to what Mike said to help preserve color(as much as possible)....It carves very well.
https://www.wood-database.com/wood-arti ... tic-woods/
Be careful sanding with things like stationary belt sander, or anything that creates heat...it turns Black!
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https://www.wood-database.com/wood-arti ... tic-woods/
Be careful sanding with things like stationary belt sander, or anything that creates heat...it turns Black!
scott
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Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
Some pieces can be splinter-y. Other than that it behaves similar to walnut for machining.
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Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
I know some people swear they'll turn dark brown or whatever, call me lucky but I have never had that problem, this one I cut almost a decade ago and the purple color is as vibrant as day 1.
Not saying it won't happen to you, maybe its a matter of sub species or the climate it is stored in, but don't assume it will because someone said it happened to them. [I've got more than half a dozen others that never changed colors so this isn't a 1 off]
Not saying it won't happen to you, maybe its a matter of sub species or the climate it is stored in, but don't assume it will because someone said it happened to them. [I've got more than half a dozen others that never changed colors so this isn't a 1 off]
Doug
Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
If it is going to go off (brown) is it all the way through the blank or is it just surface oxidation., leaving the purple underneath when sanded or planed. Or does it spoil badly?
The reason I'm asking is that I've seen some but its just a random image and maybe not the true product being offered for sale. Just something I need to be aware of.
Regards
C
The reason I'm asking is that I've seen some but its just a random image and maybe not the true product being offered for sale. Just something I need to be aware of.
Regards
C
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Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
I'm not an expert & have only used a few pen blanks but they were brown when they arrived with a note from the seller to say that the wood was brown when fresh cut & if left for a few days would change colour. Sure enough it did. Advice I have seen when turning pens is to turn the pen & then leave it for a few days before finishing. Some say you can apply heat to get the prrple colour but warn you that if you apply to much heat it turns black as Scott has said
I don't tend to use much in the way of exotic wood, I stick mainly to what I can but at the local sawmill
I don't tend to use much in the way of exotic wood, I stick mainly to what I can but at the local sawmill
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Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
Source: How To Make Purpleheart Very Purple
Article:
The coloring comes variety of organic compounds called conjugated dienes, that reflect visible light in both the high and low end range of the visible spectrum (from 400-700nm). Some of which have solubility in polar protic compounds like water, others of which are only soluble in organic solvents.
That’s where the magic of acetone comes in. It is highly polar, but it is non-protic, therefore it dissolves them all. And by dissolving them, they work their way to the surface and bring all of their bright beautiful purple color with them.
The ultraviolet rays from the sun then do their part and kick off the first oxidation reaction to finalize the effect.
But don’t store your piece in the sun. Further oxidation will result in chemical changes leading to brown. And nobody wants brown Purpleheart.
Follow these steps for best results:
1. finish sand your piece.
2. wet with acetone thoroughly
3. set piece in full bright sun
4. flip piece every 30 min.
5. re-wet with acetone each time you flip
6. repeat cycle for 3-4 hours.
7. let piece rest indoors for an additional day or more before finishing. (Oxidation is continuing)
8. seal thoroughly with top coat of choice. (Mine is lacquer) about 4 coats
9. put UV protectant over that (ie spar urethane, to keep your purple color. (Stops further oxidation)
Article:
The coloring comes variety of organic compounds called conjugated dienes, that reflect visible light in both the high and low end range of the visible spectrum (from 400-700nm). Some of which have solubility in polar protic compounds like water, others of which are only soluble in organic solvents.
That’s where the magic of acetone comes in. It is highly polar, but it is non-protic, therefore it dissolves them all. And by dissolving them, they work their way to the surface and bring all of their bright beautiful purple color with them.
The ultraviolet rays from the sun then do their part and kick off the first oxidation reaction to finalize the effect.
But don’t store your piece in the sun. Further oxidation will result in chemical changes leading to brown. And nobody wants brown Purpleheart.
Follow these steps for best results:
1. finish sand your piece.
2. wet with acetone thoroughly
3. set piece in full bright sun
4. flip piece every 30 min.
5. re-wet with acetone each time you flip
6. repeat cycle for 3-4 hours.
7. let piece rest indoors for an additional day or more before finishing. (Oxidation is continuing)
8. seal thoroughly with top coat of choice. (Mine is lacquer) about 4 coats
9. put UV protectant over that (ie spar urethane, to keep your purple color. (Stops further oxidation)
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Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
I did this trunk in 2009. Although it is stored inside, it had hours of exposure to the sunlight whenever I take a drive. Maybe it was the UV Clear Coat I sprayed it preserves the color.I know some people swear they'll turn dark brown or whatever, call me lucky but I have never had that problem, this one I cut almost a decade ago and the purple color is as vibrant as day 1.
Gary
Re: Yearning for Purple Heart
Thanks for the input guys, appreciated as always
Regards
C
Regards
C