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Copyrights and file upload question

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I have decide to try some 3D projects and I have a question on on a file that I created with clipart I purchased from Design and Make, Can I up load the file or is the file copyrighted because I purchased the clipart?

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Yes, the file is copyrighted. Please ask your question. You can take screenshots of the issue if necessary.
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I created a 3D carve of a dog with a heart, When playing with the profile tool path(trying to find which bit to use and if I wanted it on vector or outside the vector) I found that when I use a .25EM on the vector it bores a hole straight through the material at the starting point then does the 5 passes to remove the rest of the material, When I select outside vector it changes the starting point and does not plunge through it cuts it with the 5 passes. Is this normal?
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You've cropped the bottom part of the toolpath info. Is "Project toolpath onto 3D model" checked? If so, clear the check mark.

Also why do you have "On" selected for "Machine Vectors..."? I'd expect you'd want to cut "outside / right" the line to avoid cutting into the model. For that matter what is the purpose of the 1/8" cutter cutout pass?

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"Project toolpath onto 3D model", is not checked.
I had "on vector" selected to compare the preview and results against "outside/right", I am new to this and like experimenting to see what the different settings actually do and look like.
The 1/8" cutter cutout pass was to see the difference between 1/4" in time and finish on the cutout.

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Hmm...Haven't run across that one.
Maybe do a Save As...and eliminate the 3D models and toolpaths and save the stripped down version and post here?

I almost always cut Outside like Steven, but I like to use the Spiral Ramp option as it starts slow and light bit pressures, but then equal bit pressure all the way down.
A little longer, but less Watermarks...and their at a slight angle which eye doesn't pick up as well:)

Under tabs, I usually use 3D tabs, as the bit doesn't have to Stop/raise/move/lower which can change bit deflection...3D tab if long and thin barely changes the feed rate.

Glad you're trying 3D Scott :)
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You can set it to cut in however many passes you want, generally I go with .125 per pass, so a 1" model would take 4 passes. You might be able to get away with less but there are lots of variables including bit used, machine/router rigidity and type of material being cut. If you are seeing dust instead of chips, if there is any sign of smoke, you are doing something wrong, and/or are using a dull bit.
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I have stripped the model out so you can see the profile cut I am asking about.

Doug, I am not concerned with the number of passes that the cut takes, what I am wondering about is the first plunge of the profile cut is the full depth of the material not the .125 plunge the tool path states it will take.

Scott and Steven, Thank You for the Tips, I will try spiral ramp next :D
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Look at the Small vector with the Tab on it Scott.
It WAS carving on the line...but it was so small that it probably looked like a straight Plunge :)
Scott A  Vector found.jpg
Also usually good to add Some kind of ramp to a lot of cuts...besides the occasional burn mark...
routers/spindles bearings are meant for radial force, not vertical so much.

You should see some of the winners I've had:)
MAY be best to manually set tabs...as then you can put them in the easiest place to sand them off?
Placing so they align with grain is usually easier to sand off/cut off compared to endgrain.
.01" may be a bit too thin(?) as it's easy for a board to twist with 3D wood removal(or not totally flat on spoilboard, or NOT flat spoilboard).
.15-.18 usually good starting point.
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Oh....Just a few more options you can play with for your cuts to cut the way you want Scott.
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Wow! Thank You Scott I would have never found that, I have deleted the point/circle from the working file. I took a few grabs of it in the model and tool path in case others want to see what you found.

Thank You all again !

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ALWAYS a good idea to preview the lifts/plunges in the toolpaths!
Saved my behind many times :)
You probably just sweep selected it...sometimes you never know how you put it there:)
Thank goodness for Preview...it's saved a LOT of wood! :)

Yep...1/8" bit would get into nooks and crannies better if you have the cutter length.
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Re: Copyrights and file upload question

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Are you sure that you want a depth/pressure of .2 on the engraving toolpath. .02 would probably look better.
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I will need to take a step backward and view the help files on tool paths, I do not know the symbols or full meaning of the colors, I have just begun to do node editing to remove excessive vectors and straighten crooked lines.

Again Thank you for all your help and tips!
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Steve, Thank you for the tip I will incorporate it in my next try and see how it looks.
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