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Tried Something

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:03 pm
by JMD
Tried carving on a curve. Oak slab from sawmill.

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:53 pm
by scottp55
NICE:)
Now you got me wanting to try it :)
How did you decide on Z origin?
scott

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:32 pm
by JMD
Now you got me wanting to try it :)
How did you decide on Z origin?
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First figured out the radius of the slab. Then laid out an oval dish shape and put the bear in it. Hard to explain. Think it was more luck than anything. :o
Drew shape of slab, end view, then put the radius of dish shape over it and adjusted until I though it would fit. I am sure that there is a way to do this with math, but that is a little past what I can do. Hope this helps. And sorry I can't be more help. :?
John

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:10 am
by scottp55
Thanks for the .crv and the explantion John! :)
scott

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:08 pm
by Chuck26287
First figured out the radius of the slab. Then laid out an oval dish shape and put the bear in it. Hard to explain. Think it was more luck than anything. :o
Drew shape of slab, end view, then put the radius of dish shape over it and adjusted until I though it would fit. I am sure that there is a way to do this with math, but that is a little past what I can do. Hope this helps. And sorry I can't be more help. :?
John
I've never tried it before, but would this have been an application for setting the Z-origin reference at the bottom of the workpiece instead of the top?

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:40 pm
by PaulRowntree
That looks good, and the bark works well with the design. How will you keep the bark on the slab ?

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:58 pm
by martin54
Love projects like this that are a bit different from the normal, especially when you have to try & figure out where to put the piece on the table to get the machine to cut where you want. Thanks for sharing. I did a cake topper for someone a while ago where I had to do something along the same lines.
PaulRowntree wrote:That looks good, and the bark works well with the design. How will you keep the bark on the slab ?
Paul I did some centre pieces for my daughters wedding 2 years ago, she wanted them to look natural but I was worried that the bark would start falling off before the wedding. Covered them with a matt varnish which did darken then a little but it still looked pretty natural & the bark didn't start falling off. In fact they are still the same now as I have a couple of them in the workshop :lol:

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:28 am
by JMD
Chuck26287 wrote:
First figured out the radius of the slab. Then laid out an oval dish shape and put the bear in it. Hard to explain. Think it was more luck than anything. :o
Drew shape of slab, end view, then put the radius of dish shape over it and adjusted until I though it would fit. I am sure that there is a way to do this with math, but that is a little past what I can do. Hope this helps. And sorry I can't be more help. :?
John
I've never tried it before, but would this have been an application for setting the Z-origin reference at the bottom of the workpiece instead of the top?
Never tried setting the Z-origin to the bottom. Not sure you can do that with a CNC SHARK. Machine always goes to 0,0,0 at the start of a cut.

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:30 am
by JMD
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That didn't work like I planed

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:34 am
by JMD
PaulRowntree wrote:That looks good, and the bark works well with the design. How will you keep the bark on the slab ?
Never though about that. When my son-in-law's father, a wood turner, gets back from FL I wisk ask him about that. I did give it 2 costs of sprat poly. That might do something.

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:30 pm
by scottp55
JMD,
In my experience, IF the wood is dry and the bark is tight...it stays tight.
Both these pieces were KD 18 years ago and it's still tight except 2" on left of the moose blank(but the rest of the bark is keeping it in place).
And the Moose had been stuck in a 140F oven for an hour after carving to let linseed/beeswax saturate it.
I've got a bark on slab table 20 yrs old and that is still tight as well(all pics Maple though).
2 cents,
scott

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:17 pm
by BillK
I've done this a few times. What I do to get the curve close is figure out how wide my carving is going to be and then round up another inch. So in this case say 4 inches. Mark out the 4 inches on the end of the log or round and measure up to the edge below the bark. Then use the arc tool to draw that with your measurements, do a two rail sweep for the length, and add your carving. Hope that helps.
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Re: Tried Something

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:07 am
by JMD
BillK wrote:I've done this a few times. What I do to get the curve close is figure out how wide my carving is going to be and then round up another inch. So in this case say 4 inches. Mark out the 4 inches on the end of the log or round and measure up to the edge below the bark. Then use the arc tool to draw that with your measurements, do a C for the length, and add your carving. Hope that helps.
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Thanks Bill K, but do not have the two rail sweep in VCarve Pro8. That would make things a lot easier. :)

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:58 pm
by BillK
Very good point. But before I had Aspire, I did the same with Sketchup and cut 3d. :D

Re: Tried Something

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:47 pm
by JMD
BillK wrote:Very good point. But before I had Aspire, I did the same with Sketchup and cut 3d. :D
I will have to look into that. Thanks.