The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby TSM2018 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:41 pm

ATC, suddenly became more affordable. I will check out the sawcreek mill forum this weekend for the post. I would love to get to the pro hobbyist level. If I am spending this kind of money, then I would buy the *New* Rose Engine with all the accessories. This kind of money is not in my budget.
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby tomgardiner » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:53 pm

I know I'm too late to influence any decisions but I couldn't see the point of a table top machine. My wish list would be steel and lots of it. My machine is about 3000# and it still leaves traces of vibration with fast y-axis change in direction.
I wouldn't be without a vacuum pump - a quiet one. I am running a Busch oil type pump and still hold a conversation with it running.
I would like a push button spindle - wrenchs are getting old.
A removable section of table to expose a vertical machinists vise for vertical holding.
FMT's touch off z calibration has been flawless but is in a vulnerable position.
Optional dust boots: pressure foot small for detailed work large for larger cutters. Swing or slide away for access to the spindle.
Drilled and tapped table to accept fixtures.
One thing I don't like about the picture you posted was the long axis drive sits outboard which takes up real estate. In an ideal world that would be confined to the footprint of the gantry.
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby tomgardiner » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:28 pm

One last thing. The one thing that influenced my purchase decision over all the others was the confidence that I would be making parts with just basic 2-4 hours of training. I had no experience with programming or tuning electronics. I know I paid a premium for that but it was worth it.
A concise training and reference manual along with a turnkey machine for woodworkers who would rather work wood.
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby potzmannwoodshop » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:50 pm

tomgardiner wrote: My wish list would be steel and lots of it. My machine is about 3000# and it still leaves traces of vibration with fast y-axis change in direction.
I wouldn't be without a vacuum pump - a quiet one.

I would like a push button spindle - wrenchs are getting old.

Optional dust boots: pressure foot small for detailed work large for larger cutters. Swing or slide away for access to the spindle.

Drilled and tapped table to accept fixtures.


I have an older Machine, from the late 90's but it has all of these features. 10,000lbs of cast iron, 10hp becker vac pump, 10 position tool magizine with auto change, vacuum built in from the factory with auto dost boot height based on tool, vac table is set with 8mm tapped holes every 120mm. She mills up to 600IPM and rapids are at 20m/sec

Dont ignore older industrial machines. If you dont mind a steep learning curve they can provide more bang for your buck.
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby IslaWW » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:18 pm

An update to this thread...the second machine is in testing and almost ready to go off to its new home. A little bit of test cutting first: https://youtu.be/LHKHqkKT4aA
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby TSM2018 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:45 am

Price point?
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby IslaWW » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:16 am

Please send all inquiries to GCnC411@gmail.com
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby Phil » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:13 pm

I haven't kept up with all of the suggestions so this may have been covered. I just watched the video. My favorite feature is the ATC. My suggestion would be to have the dust shoe independent of the spindle. My Shopbot came with one that moves up and down with the spindle. It didn't do that great keeping up with the dust produced. I made a few of my own and settled on a design that can be easily adjusted to the height of the material. This works very well.

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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby IslaWW » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:21 pm

I have tried a few variations of a "floating" dustfoot and I cant seem to come up with a version that doesn't mess with the toolchanges. So for now, the only option I can offer is 3 different lengths of bristles. Thanks for the input Phil
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby IslaWW » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:09 am

Just added another option for these machines: https://youtu.be/WHXI_vGm_Ug
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby scottp55 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:53 am

SLICK Gary!!! :D

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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby WNC_Ed » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:26 pm

IslaWW wrote:Just added another option for these machines: https://youtu.be/WHXI_vGm_Ug


That is truly a dream machine!
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby wb9tpg » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:29 pm

IslaWW wrote:Just added another option for these machines: https://youtu.be/WHXI_vGm_Ug


Wow - impressive possible "no-touch" probe idea
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby newmexico » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:15 pm

1. 36" x 36" Table size.
2. Two Routers, one for vcarving and the other for cutouts. (We get tired of changing bits.)
3. Not to be starting a forum brawl... I wish we could run our machines with Mac computers.
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Re: The "Ultimate Tabletop Machine" for Woodworkers

Postby Rcnewcomb » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:14 pm

Two Routers, one for vcarving and the other for cutouts. (We get tired of changing bits.)

The automated tool changer (ATC) is a real game changer. It takes the stress out of tool changes and makes it easier to select whatever bit is best for that particular toolpath. The rotary tool changer can hold a lot of different bits.
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