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Postby highpockets » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:44 am

I know I have a long ways to go, but I feel like I'm slowly making progress on learning 2.5D modeling.

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Re: Progress

Postby mtylerfl » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:03 am

You certainly ARE making progress, John! Looks like you are well underway! Congrats!
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Re: Progress

Postby LittleGreyMan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:44 am

highpockets wrote:I feel like I'm slowly making progress on learning 2.5D modeling.


I am sorry, but I totally disagree.

But you made a pretty good 3D modelling :D

That's not "full 3D" as it is one sided, with no undercut, but that's actual 3D.

For a machinist, a 2.5D part is a part with 2D items that can all individually be cut in 2D. For example, a part with holes and pockets at different but constant Z levels.

Wikipedia wrote:A 2.5D machine, also called a two-and-a-half-axis mill, possesses the capability to translate in all three axes but can perform the cutting operation only in two of the three axes at a time due to hardware or software limitations
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Re: Progress

Postby scottp55 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:04 am

NICE John!!!
Definite improvements all the time! :)
Almost asked you for the outline vector,for a butterfly wedge for a burl slice I'm working on:)
Tried to take pics of my backyard ducks, and bitmap trace them, but they never sit still long enough in the right profile! :(
When you get to where I can see individual feathers...I'll buy it :D
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Re: Progress

Postby dwilli9013 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:00 pm

Nice, I'd say you're coming along quite nicely. I don't know how you find the time with your travels and what not. Its a fun timing when the muscle memory starts kicking in and it begins to become second nature. I love modeling almost as much as the cnc'ing. Thanks for sharing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Progress

Postby highpockets » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:08 pm

scottp55 wrote:When you get to where I can see individual feathers...I'll buy it :D
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And here I was going to send it to you.... Oh well....
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Re: Progress

Postby highpockets » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:11 pm

dwilli9013 wrote:Nice, I'd say you're coming along quite nicely. I don't know how you find the time with your travels and what not. Its a fun timing when the muscle memory starts kicking in and it begins to become second nature. I love modeling almost as much as the cnc'ing. Thanks for sharing. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Dwayne, With our travels sometime modeling is all I can do. I've got a long ways to go before it becomes second nature, but I'm starting see images as how I'd break them down to create a model. It's a disease :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Progress

Postby mtylerfl » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:12 pm

I’ve not been totally satisfied with the status quo definitions between 2.5D and 3D.

I decided some time ago to refer to models we typically use, as “3D Relief” or just “dimensional relief”

So, to keep my brain happy, we have...

1) 2D = “plain” vector cuts

2) 2.5D = vector cuts made at various depths to achieve a “raised/lower” composite design

3) 3D Relief = Bas Relief raster carving

4) 3D = “full” Relief (like a chess piece, for example)
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Re: Progress

Postby ger21 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:39 pm

You can simplify it even further.
2.5D = 2D.
3D relief = 3D

2D comes from vectors.
3D comes from models.

It's that simple.
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Re: Progress

Postby mtylerfl » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:56 pm

ger21 wrote:You can simplify it even further.
2.5D = 2D.
3D relief = 3D

2D comes from vectors.
3D comes from models.

It's that simple.


I used to keep it that simple years ago, but my brain was unhappy. I needed better definitions between the different 2D and 3D types - especially when speaking to newbies trying to understand the real-world differences.
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Re: Progress

Postby LittleGreyMan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:16 pm

Michael and Gerry,

I agree with both of you. I sometimes use 2 categories, sometimes 4. It just depends on the context and on your interlocutor.

In every case, we all agree John's project is 3D and very good :D
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Re: Progress

Postby mtylerfl » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:25 pm

LittleGreyMan wrote:Michael and Gerry,

I agree with both of you. I sometimes use 2 categories, sometimes 4. It just depends on the context and on your interlocutor.

In every case, we all agree John's project is 3D and very good :D


Yes indeed!
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Re: Progress

Postby Leo » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:45 pm

ger21 wrote:You can simplify it even further.
2.5D = 2D.
3D relief = 3D

2D comes from vectors.
3D comes from models.

It's that simple.



Yeah, I can agree with that perspective. It's not a chess piece - yet, but it is a model and not just a line drawing (vector).

John, As I am also in the learning of the 3D stuff, you are quite further along than I am. I have a little
different approach to what I am trying to achieve as a final product.

What you have done there is simply fandytastic.
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Re: Progress

Postby scottp55 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:03 pm

Send it John!!!! Pretty please:) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I can't train my critters to sit still, and NOT make ripples for a bitmap trace:)
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Re: Progress

Postby Mark's Wood Chips » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:29 pm

Beautiful! Great work John!

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