Prismatic bronzed led letters

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Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby Ferry Winkler » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:50 pm

Hello this is my second project post.
Here you can see the results of my prismatic letters I made.
5cm thick foam
Frontside: Prismaticly rendered in Aspire
Backside: Pockets for led's and mounting studs
Finishing: bronzed with my own made bronze coating and patina's

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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby Phil » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:27 pm

Very well done. I certainly understand if you don't want to share proprietary secrets but I'd like to know how you made your bronze coating. It looks exceptional.

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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby Ferry Winkler » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:45 pm

Hello Phil,

I am afraid that indeed I can not share the formulea.
It is a great finish for all 3D objects and even furniture.
I developed it because not all my clients want regular painted or the more exspensive goldleaf work.
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby galerdude » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:46 pm

Those really look nice!
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby frank131313 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:51 pm

Ferry Winkler wrote:Hello Phil,

I am afraid that indeed I can not share the formulea.
It is a great finish for all 3D objects and even furniture.
I developed it because not all my clients want regular painted or the more exspensive goldleaf work.


You are on a forum and you don't want to share !?!!?? ... only business ... :roll:
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby BobF999 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:19 pm

Hi
Can you tell me what kind of foam board you used? Did you route the letters?
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby Ferry Winkler » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:21 pm

You can use any board, wood or plastic. I used plastic.
Yes I routed the letters using Aspire.
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby dah79 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:46 pm

Can you post a picture of the backside with your LED lighting? Also post the finished product. Looks great!!

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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby mtylerfl » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:46 pm

Beautiful work! The coating looks more like a Brass color than Bronze to me. Bronze usually has more of a brownish coloration (due to the copper content). Before you apply the patina solution, the letters appear to be more of a bright gold-ish color - what I would expect from Brass. Whatever the case may be, the lettering looks great!
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby Ferry Winkler » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:08 pm

Hello Dave,
I do not have any photo's of the led's in the back, but I have made these photo's for you.

Hello mtylerfl,
Maybe it does look different, but i can tell you the coating contains 90% of real bronze.
It is all in how I want the patina to be, that changes the colors and relfections.

Bye the way, I also routed the mounting box using Aspire.
First I covered the front of the 4mm thick dibond with a woodgrain vinyl print and then routed the backside with some grooves and a 90degree bit.
Foulded the sides popped them together and there it is.

Great what Aspire can do for you.
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby mtylerfl » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:18 pm

Fantastic! I'm sure your client is very pleased!
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby martin54 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:08 pm

Very nice, I've done a few sign trays with stand off letters but nothing anywhere near as classy as this :lol: :lol:

Have you used individual LED's or the LED strip you can buy ? I have done a few experiments with the strip type LED's & letters with a curve like your "R" can be a bit of a problem getting the LED strip to lay right :lol: :lol:

Guessing most of the wiring runs at the back, that's the way I do them anyway :lol: :lol:
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby Ferry Winkler » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:31 pm

Hello Martin,

I did them with led modules, these were led65 (waterproof) with 5cm wire between them.
In illustrator i mirrored the text, then i inlined the letters for a maximum thick edge, but still enough space to place the rectangles of the leds.
So the whole led AND THE MOUNTING STUD system was already designed in illustrator before i exported it to Aspire.
Ofcourse this could be done in Aspire also.
Then i made a backside routing job and a frontside routing job.
It was pretty sofisticated (i must say) for a first time.
I do not think a lot of people do it like this yet.

Enough for a three day workshop class :-)
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby martin54 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:33 am

I can't wait to see what you come up with next after such a fantastic first job :lol: :lol: The finish on them is stunning & most people would never realise they were made of foam.

I do my letters a similar sort of way, double sided machining with the back of the letters pocketed first for the LED's & then flipped if there is any machining required on the front face. Have experimented with different ways of mounting the LED's & different types. Played about with the LED's facing the backing board as they would normally be with a halo effect & with them facing out to the side to give a different effect, not tried Channel letters where the LED would face the front of the letter with a translucent acrylic face yet though :lol: :lol: :lol:

Do you solder your own LED strings or do you buy them made up in lengths that you can cut as required ??
I started with individual LED holders that I soldered together as required but it was far to time consuming for me.
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Re: Prismatic bronzed led letters

Postby Ferry Winkler » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:06 am

They are 1m strings that i have to cut and solder to the requered length.
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