Where do you change safe z?

[sailfl]

Where do you change safe z?

[Mark]

Hello sailfl,

The Safe Z or Rapid Clearance Gap, is set on the Material Setup form, this is the first icon in the
Toolpath Operations section.

I hope that this helps,

Cheers,

Mark.

[sailfl]

Mark,

Thanks

[cabnet636]

i am glad you asked that question!!

jim

[wcarrothers]

Be carefull with your assumptions of this setting..

If you open another file in another instance aspire which has a different setting then what you just entered on this screen both of them will end up changing to what ever the last open file has these settings set to.

I think this is done so if you have 2 files open this setting stays syncronized as the same while working in each file.

How ever I find this to be very anoying as for example you have 1 file set to have a rapid clearence set to 2" (so your paths you make clear clamps) and between making paths you happen to open another file in another instance of aspire (lets say to copy a vector you needed or a previous file you were working on for the project and it didn't have the Z safe set to what your current file is (ie it was default or lower) when you go back to the instance of aspire you were working on your next paths will be set to what ever that files zsafe it was.

Always best when outputting pathing to check the ToolPath Summary for each path to make sure it states the expected z safe if important to your project.

b.

[sailfl]

Mark,

Is this true what the previous replier states?

Why isn't the safe z set under Job Setup also?

Thanks

[Mark]

Hello sailfl,

Yes what Bill states is correct, if you set the Safe Z position, it will set this value
for any copies of the software that you have open at that time.
If you then calculate any toolpaths they will use this value.

So if you have more than one copy of the software open and are calculating toolpaths
in more than one open copy of the software and you require a different Safe Z value,
for the toolpaths that you will calculate within those copies.
Set the Safe Z, then generate the toolpaths straight away to avoid confusion.

Bear in mind of course, that once you have calculated a toolpath, it will use the
Safe Z setting that was set at the time that that toolpath was calculated.

Bill is also correct in stating that you should always verify the Safe Z that a toolpath
is using in the Toolpath Summary form before running a toolpath.


The Safe Z is not on the initial setup form for this very reason,
ideally, it should be something that you consciously set.

I hope that this helps.

Cheers,

Mark.

[cabnet636]

as i have been carving these chess players the material is 3" thick and bit depth is 3.03 +/- to get it to cut through the material, i have wanted to adjust this so i will not trip "high Z" limit switch . there was another application and right now i cannot rememder it but i am glad this came up. thanks for the info.

jim

[wcarrothers]

I think it would be more logical to have these settings stick, be indepenant or what ever you call it per each instance of aspire you might have open. Guess I'm just not a fan of this setting changing across instances of a given program (or rather in a windows applicatoin I think most people would assume this setting would not be shaired between instances) ...

I don't think many casual users actual click that first icon before clicking a path type icon for each path they create even though the GUI is setup with that progression in mind.

b.

[sailfl]

Mark,

I agree with wcarrothers. A change in one file should not affect another file. You are using a global variable to make these changes it sounds to me.

[Tony Mac]

A quick note to reassure everyone that Safe Z = Rapid Clearance Gap
will always be a safe height above the material regardless of how many
simultaneously sessions with different heights are being run.

I would say that the vast majority of users run all projects using the
same Rapid Clearance Gap and rarely change this setting.

Tony

[sailfl]

Tony,

But you have a way of modifing the Z. One does not expect that the Z would change in one file when you have changed it in another.

[Pilotfromdk]

Hi

I had this problem just a few days ago.
I made the file at home as always, and went to the shop
When i had set the 0,0,0 point and started up the program the Z-axis vent BANG!
to the top and tripped the limitswitch
After some searching i found the safe Z was changed to 165mm
I changed it back to my normal 25 and everything was ok again

But i was thinking WHY it was happening to me And found out that i had opened a file from this forum to check out, and because the file used a different safe-Z it made my next new file adopted the new value....

What i would like in the next version was to have the safe-z value displayed in the "create new file" window. Because that's a window always opened, in oppersit of the the "setup matrial" window....
Not that i would like to re-enter the same value every time, but because i then can do a quick check if the value is ok or not....

Hope it make sense

[gravirozo]

hi

pilotform, you are in mm system... to load something from forum, that can be in inch,, might be the conversion made this setting you...
also some machine people use they have 15-25 z movement...

thanks
viktor

[Pilotfromdk]

Yes i'm in mm. My point is that I would like to be able to check my safe-z in a window i need to open anyway to make a new file, and not need to open a second window to check it out