Door bead problems

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Door bead problems

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Hi,
I am trying to re-create a small 6mm bead for a door profile on a high quality HD board that is to be painted.
I have attached a image of a wood door that show the affect I am struggling with. Where the 6mm bead runs to a stop, the shape has been smoothed out with the natural rotation of the router cutter and this is the affect i need to copy.
I have used the moulding toolpath tool many times with great success to make beads using a small 1.6mm straight cutter with a small step over on flat sheet. However its only going to give me a natural stop and other that sanding it by hand i don't know of any other way.
Anyone with any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Tim

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Re: Door bead problems

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Tim,

Can't you simply pretend in Aspire that your material is thicker than the actual one? You will have some air cut, but it should do the trick and produce this natural stop.
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Re: Door bead problems

Post by TReischl »

Not to be a curmudgeon, but. . . .

That is an example of trying to do a beaded cope on a door without the proper tools or know how. That said, I am sure it can be called a "design feature".

Why not just run it on a router table with a bit made to do it?
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Re: Door bead problems

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Yes,.... fully aware of the design feature and i would say that this door has been made in the very same way that you have described.

However i need to do the same design on a 25mm flat sheet on the machine bed working with different tooling, as i don't have a 4th Axis. The door pocket is easy, and its not to hard to recreate the round bead, i just don't know how to simulate the curve of the router tool where the bead runs to the end. The way i do it it comes to a natural stop.
I not so sure also that increasing the Z height will give the affect.
Tim

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Re: Door bead problems

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Tim,

Create a toolpath as long as you need with radius ends set depth of cut to 0, off set to depth you need in door style, touch off the cutter to work and away you go, the cutter will ride in & out on the radius ends.

I have just done same to cut some gears.

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Re: Door bead problems

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I've never used this feature, but there's a ramp setting that if I understand it right, ramps the bit in and out of the material on start/stop, moving X or Y at the same time Z is going down. If I'm explaining or understanding that right. That should give you that fade feature.

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Re: Door bead problems

Post by ger21 »

Why would you want to duplicate something that is done incorrectly in the first place?

A properly constructed door would have the bead running around the corner, which would look much better.
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Re: Door bead problems

Post by 4DThinker »

If the board (door) if flat, then using the fluting toolpath on a straight line can ramp in at the beginning and end and run full depth the rest of the way. Use a veining bit with the roundover blade matching the bed radius you want. The result should look just like the same image you posted.
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Re: Door bead problems

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Well,
Thanks for all the feedback... including Gerry's. I am sorry the design doesn't meet to your approval, but don't shoot the CNC guy ... Shoot the designer please!!
These are for large wall panels also doors. Very Georgian is its styling. Between the ramping and the fluting tooling from 4D thinker and what i already had ideas on of my own, i think i have a cunning plan.
Thanks for all you help.... even Gerry's, as it did bring a smile to me face.
Tim

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