Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

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Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby scubanimal » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:14 pm

All,
I've decided to upgrade from my current shark to a more capable machine. I think I've narrowed down to either a Shopbot Buddy BT48 or a CAMaster Stinger 1 24, both are 24x48" cutting areas. What I want to be able to do with my next system is both rotary (4th axis) and edge (dove tails) which means having an indexer/lathe and the ability to vertically hold the material with the head able to pass over to do the cutting. While I'm leaning towards the CAMaster, I'm not sure given the configuration that it can actually do edge/end cutting of a wide board. I was wondering if anyone has experience with both those systems, and can pass on their experiences? Or if anyone has done edge cutting on a stinger1

Thank you for any and all advice; this is a lot of money and would really like to make the right decision.
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby Rcnewcomb » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:29 pm

Both are good machines with active user forums.

I'd suggest each company to put you in contact with an owner near you. Ask them if/how they would approach the vertical holding.
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby scubanimal » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:57 pm

I started there, CAMaster has not been replying to my questions, they'll give me a quote, but have not been very good at answer tech questions. I'm a member of both of those forums, but as is expected those folks are partial to their respective brand. This forum has such a wonderful diversity as well as experience I thought I could get a bit more insight. Both are good machines, just hoping to go in with my eyes open, and my expectations managed.

thank you
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby ger21 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:15 am

Most of the Camaster users that I've seen cutting dovetails have mounted a fixture to the rotary axis, on the side.
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby highpockets » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:18 am

I don't have a dog in this hunt, but it seems if CAMaster isn't being responsive to tech questions now (before the sale), how responsive are they going to be after the sale?
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby 4DThinker » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:21 am

Clamping vertical to cut joinery on the end of long boards is a rare capability of heavier machines.

I regularly cut dovetails, box joints, tenons, etc., on a simply jig I attach to the front rail of my Probotix Meteor. Their dual Y motor open frame design leaves the inside frame area open for a variety of unusual furniture cuts.

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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby eph210 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:35 am

I use the overhanging section of the Stinger to engrave on the edges of some of the cutting boards that I make. I made a fixture that makes it easy to clamp them vertically.
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby scottp55 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:41 am

Perhaps toss this dog into the mix.
http://www.shopbottools.com/mProducts/desktop-max.htm
If it was only cutting area, I would have bought a shark and been very disappointed, compared to the regular Desktop accuracy and repeatability.
Just mentioning, supposed to be even more accurate than mine:)
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby scubanimal » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:13 am

Thank you all for your comments. If I can mount long boards for edge cutting next to the indexer that would work.
Yeah the slow ->non responses have not helped my confidence in CAMaster.
The desktop is 2'x3'. And I'd like 2'x4' cutting area.

Thx all
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby Adrian » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:07 am

Why the buddy rather than a fixed table ShopBot?
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby fixtureman » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:07 pm

With the buddy you have the option of going longer at any time by adding a longer power stick.
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby Adrian » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:33 pm

Yes but the stinger doesn't have that option so if that's a priority why compare the two which is what I was getting at.
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby CrowsWW » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:44 pm

Have you looked into other CNC?
here is another dog in this fight - Look at http://www.shopsabre.com/ they make some real nice machine and the tech support is amazing
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby fixtureman » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:03 pm

Also with the buddy it is easy to upgrade it
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Re: Shopbot Buddy or CAMaster Stinger1??

Postby kzeyus » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:26 pm

I have a cammaster stinger and a large PRS shopbot. The shopbot is my goto machine, the stinger used for indexing and secondary projects when shopbot is busy. I started with the shopbots (PR) and may be I'm just more comfortable with it, but support and rigidity wise, I'd go with shopbot. I do like the way the indexer is on the stinger.

I'd prefer a full size machine to a buddy though, project sizes have a way of growing and you can always cut smaller projects on full size machine. Buddy takes up twice as much room if you get to using full sheets of material with a powerstick.

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