getting a ledge on a v-carve tool path

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getting a ledge on a v-carve tool path

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I'm carving this curved skateboard surface and the v-carve is doing two passes. There's a ledge between the two passes you can see in the picture I attached.

Is there a quick way I can run some sort of finishing pass to clean that off?

This isn't critical as this is to be filled with black epoxy. So it's underneath. I'm just curious if anybody knows what I did wrong.

I'm using a 60 degree 1/8" shank, two flute v-carve.
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Re: getting a ledge on a v-carve tool path

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Looks like your 60 degree bit is not really 60 degrees to me.

That is pretty common btw, especially with inexpensive bits.
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That's what I thought (and was afraid of).

Or it could be that the it's not really 1/8 at the widest part of the flutes...

Oh well...

It did come from drillman1 who is a great supplier down in texas....

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Drillman1's .125" shank engraving bits are consistent .1245" shank and cutters, BUT his 30* standard flat AND the 60* std(both have grey depth rings), are swaged just before the flute grind.
Both measure .118" at the flutes with my digital calipers.
His SHARP 60* (Burgundy depth ring .006"flat) is the normal .1245"
Don't know if it explains that bad a waterline mark though.
Never seen it quite that pronounced.
You sure you didn't have the 45* chucked(orange depth ring)....I'VE done That before my eyeballs were calibrated :oops:
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If your machine can handle bits with a 1/4" or 1/2" shank then a CMT 60 degree LaserPoint V-bit might be your best solution. It is a 1/2" diameter bit which means it can cut a trench 0.433" deep.

The 858.001.11 has the 1/4" shank and the 858.501.11 has the 1/2" shank.
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Re: getting a ledge on a v-carve tool path

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Here's where "v-carve" can be used to mean 3 things:
  1. name of software (VCarve)
  2. a specific toolpath within the software (V-Carve / Engraving)
  3. a type of router bit (v-carve)
I would call #3 a "v-bit".

Is the toolpath you are using a "V-Carve / Engraving Toolpath"? This appears to me to be a "Pocket Toolpath".

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Yes. Here is a very good example of the benefit of seeing the actual Vectric file (complete with Toolpaths you used are left intact - no changes from when you ran the project).

Hard to detect from your photo...but it appears you may be using two different bits - a v-bit and an end mill. That’s fine if you are using VCarve/engraving Toolpath along with a Flat area clearance set up.

But, we don’t know. Perhaps you are setting up a VCarve and a separate Pocket Toolpath?

Please upload your original Vectric file. All should become clear, once we can see it.

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My suspection that this is not a V-Carve/Engrave Toolpath is the rounded corners of the letters. For that matter a part of me really thinks this is a 3D Finish Toolpath and what we are seeing is an artefact of a gross step-over as the original poster mentioned a curved board.

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Also, after entering correct (calipered) size, and still getting Waterlines...
Perhaps run Paul Zank's bit angle test shape?
12.1.14 VBIT ANGLE TEST.crv
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Here's one where Drillman1's 90 left major waterlines with the angle entered AS 90*
BIT ANGLE 90 DEGREES BEFORE.jpg
Then ran those test shapes(also tweaking feeds/speeds on a new bit) and entered different angles to find least waterlines and best cut.
BIT ANGLE TEST SHAPE PAUL Z'S TEST.jpg
And then ran that angle (87*)after changing in Tool Database,on the same exact sign, and all that was left was the worst of the first cuts waterlines, which Easily sanded out.
BIT ANGLE 87 DEGREES AFTER ALL MARKS ORIGINAL CUT EXCEPT LEFT.jpg
Just an option to tweak...maybe try 56* first?
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Waterlines= reduce angle
Indented/overcut corners= increase angle
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adze_cnc wrote:My suspection that this is not a V-Carve/Engrave Toolpath is the rounded corners of the letters. For that matter a part of me really thinks this is a 3D Finish Toolpath and what we are seeing is an artefact of a gross step-over as the original poster mentioned a curved board.

Steven
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