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Always something new.

Postby jerry carney » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:56 pm

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Re: Always something new.

Postby gkas » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:36 pm

Another gimmick that probably works like crap....
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Re: Always something new.

Postby Xxray » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:11 am

gkas wrote:Another gimmick that probably works like crap....


Gotta be horrendous, especially at that price point.
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Re: Always something new.

Postby Adrian » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:09 am

That site is a fraud that the real Goliath company have been warning about. The "reviews" should have given it away let alone the price. The real site is here - http://www.goliathcnc.com/
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Re: Always something new.

Postby Xxray » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:30 am

Oh god the reviews, they should be preserved for posterity, hilarious - Bwokin Engrish at its very best ! Never occurred to me to scroll down that far, when I saw the price I left before I got malware. Almost as good as the "You just inherited $3,000,000, now please send all your banking details to me in Kenya" emails.

Also noticed the "get it while you can" countdown clock never seems to run out, in fact, it gained time between my 2 brief visits.
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Re: Always something new.

Postby ger21 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:39 pm

This review tells you all you need to know.

Todo correct, the only downside is that the mouthpieces come very fair.
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Re: Always something new.

Postby laflippin » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:18 pm

I have nothing to add with respect to this bombastic commercial offering--looks like previous posters have this one properly nailed.

However, the concept is certainly intriguing...if NASA can build reliable rovers to do precision work on the surface of Mars, a decent robotics company should be able to solve the issues around a roving CNC machine. Controlling the stability of the rotary tool against the torque generated at the bit-wood interface might be a pretty expensive proposition, though. CNC machines obviously do this by mounting the rotary tool on a stable gantry that attaches to the work surface. A free-roving robot would have to solve that problem with sheer weight of the machine or....???

It was interesting to watch some of the video at that link...just watching the thingie crawl over the efflux of wood chips it generates as it goes along made me cringe. Definitely wouldn't trust an expensive surface to that machine.

As someone who has always had to pay dearly for mouthpieces, I admit that I was very hopeful that I might be able to get them very fair... :shock:
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Re: Always something new.

Postby Rcnewcomb » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:17 pm

Pick any two
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Re: Always something new.

Postby Xxray » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:50 pm

laflippin wrote:
As someone who has always had to pay dearly for mouthpieces, I admit that I was very hopeful that I might be able to get them very fair... :shock:


Careful what you wish for, some mouthpieces are all but impossible to get rid of !
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Re: Always something new.

Postby laflippin » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:19 pm

re: "Pick any two".....

Yeah, that's what Moe Howard always used to say, and we know how that turned out for Curly and Larry.
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Re: Always something new.

Postby LittleGreyMan » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm

I already had a look at this during the KS campaign. IMHO, i's an interesting but impractical concept.

The target retail price was $2890.

As laflippin noticed, the cutting torque is the main issue. Do you imagine not gripping firmly your hand router while using it?

I never found a video showing in real time a full cut. If you look closely, you will see the cuts seem very shallow and the router produces very few chips. I found no indication of speed vs pass depth. The only information about precision was the captors precision: 0.1 mm. The cutting precision of 0.1 mm is described as a target…

I'd bet the cut is ***very*** long with small passes and probably a not very high precision.

And the principle seems incompatible with 3D machining.
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Re: Always something new.

Postby martin54 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:47 am

Like LGM I saw this when it was a KS campaign, I was surprised at the take up as I personally had trouble figuring out who the target market might be, seemed a bit expensive for a Hobby machine with limited capabilities (that I could see) & to slow to be really beneficial to trades people. The other thing is I have rarely been able to buy a perfectly flat board with a lot of construction type materials & even when I was able to finding a large enough completely flat area to lay it on would be a nightmare :lol: :lol:
I do like the idea though & I have a nephew who buys all sorts of things like this that he rarely or never uses :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Always something new.

Postby Xxray » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:53 am

martin54 wrote:Like LGM I saw this when it was a KS campaign, I was surprised at the take up as I personally had trouble figuring out who the target market might be, seemed a bit expensive for a Hobby machine with limited capabilities (that I could see) & to slow to be really beneficial to trades people. The other thing is I have rarely been able to buy a perfectly flat board with a lot of construction type materials & even when I was able to finding a large enough completely flat area to lay it on would be a nightmare :lol: :lol:
I do like the idea though & I have a nephew who buys all sorts of things like this that he rarely or never uses :lol: :lol: :lol:


Sounds like me, I got some 3D scanner type thing for the ipad years ago, never used it.

This thing I can see useful for light etching on a limited variety of surfaces, or perhaps it might do good work with a sharpie. Tough to see it doing any good with anything requiring even very limited torque, it almost seems like a contradiction between what it is and what it is supposed to do.
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Re: Always something new.

Postby Rcnewcomb » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:04 am

Tough to see it doing any good with anything requiring even very limited torque


Seems like a laser etcher would be a better application than using a router.
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Re: Always something new.

Postby scottp55 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:59 am

Nice point Randall:)
Got me thinking it might be nice for etching a hardwood floor or hallway :D
Chips was my first concern, when I was remembering a large(6') Compass Rose inlay a homeowner up here had done in a antique refinished Sugar Maple floor.
Had a friend spend the better part of a day inserting a 12" Ebony "Toe Line" in a Jatoba floor for his dartboard..he MIGHT have hired someone after all the cussing he did :D
I imagine a large fan or compressor nozzle gun could keep an area clean of chips though?
Too bad it can't climb walls:)
A lot of people refurb timber framed barns and houses to live in here, that might want designs in the timbers.
Just thinking before coffee:)
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