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lockwood1
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scottp55 wrote:Has to be imported in the modeling tab.
Thank you

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martin54 wrote:As Scott says you have to import STL models not open them, have a look at this tutorial for a proper explanation :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://support.vectric.com/tutorials/V8 ... D_GEN.html
Thank you for this. I have just started watching the tutorials.

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Scott
I just cannot get your website to work.
I get the front page but the tabs refuse to let me in :(
Cheers
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lockwood1
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Just want to thank all that responded to my post, everything you folks told me has been a great help, and I'm starting to get a picture of how things work in the 3D world. A lot to still understand, but on my way.

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Off topic to Wolffie;
Just noticed that Tuesday Wolffie and told Kelly(salesperson/photographer/keeper of the web:)
We did have Northern Desktop in Limestone, but it didn't work out, so I have 2 machines in the house I'm upgrading.
New operator is 50 miles South so Kelly is trying to edit all the web stuff and it's not quite completed as little ones keep being born in the hospital and need their pics taken:)
Try right clicking and opening in a new window..seems to work for the moment. Think the 30 neck warmers are all gone now:)
Be well,
Sorry for 'Jacking:(
scott
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Thanks Scott
Cheers
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FastFarmer
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Lockwood, if you really want to recreate this image then aspire isn't going to help you; but you do need a proper 3d modelling/cad program (I personally use the fish one)

As has been said, you need to get this to an STL file.
1. With Vcarve trace the bitmap.
2. Clean up the vectors as best you can and get the basic shapes, features and outline in place
3. Export it as a DFX
4. With your cad/modeling software extrude the vectors and create a 3d mesh model
5. Shape the mesh up and bring your face to life. Copy the pic and get as much detail in as you can.
6. At this point I would also convert to a solid and get the vectors back for 2d cleanup (but you can skip this)
7. Once happy, save your mesh as an STL and import it back into Vcarve where you can machine it.

Good luck!

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FastFarmer wrote:Lockwood, if you really want to recreate this image then aspire isn't going to help you; but you do need a proper 3d modelling/cad program (I personally use the fish one)
Sorry to say, but that's absolutely false.

You may prefer another way of doing it, but Aspire is way more suitable for bas-relief 3D than most modelers, as many experienced and skilled Aspire users already proved it here.

As we have no artistic bone, we mostly use Aspire for 2D work, carving work and very simple bas-relief modeling. For actual 3D work, we use several high-end CAD software, so we know both.

Of course, if you already master an artistic 3D modeler, you may find easier to use it rather than learning Aspire, and it's a perfectly respectable opinion.

But you can't say that Aspire won't help.

PS: I'm in no way affiliated with Vectric.
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Fair call. Good to see someone keeping me honest. I don't own or use Aspire so I shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.

I retract the comment Aspire won't help. Cheers

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FastFarmer wrote:I retract the comment Aspire won't help. Cheers
So you won't be hung at the end of the day by some Aspire fanatics :D

If you're interested, download the demo which is 100% functional (except for generating machine code) and try modeling a bas-relief from the tutorials.

At the opposite, using Aspire to model actual 3D work doesn't make sense for me, except as a workaround for people not having or not willing to learn another tool for a punctual case.
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lockwood1
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I have downloaded the Aspire trial and I am going trough the tutorials. I get bits of time to do this but things are kinda making some sense. I have a ways to go but for the moment research is the way to go. Also someone else informed me that the birdhouse face is a copyright pic, so I wouldn't use this one. I am finding things that are comparable on line and in a couple wood carving books I have. But I see 3d in my future. I did get the stl file opened and will be studying that a bit more.

Thanks for the feedback, John

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LittleGreyMan wrote:
FastFarmer wrote:I retract the comment Aspire won't help. Cheers
So you won't be hung at the end of the day by some Aspire fanatics :D
Well, this is a lesson in being a smarty pants. I had a look and it supports "Create Shapes from Vector Outlines" so thanks to you I narrowly avoided the rope!! This feature would make this process very easy. Cheers

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Does vCarve Desktop v9 support "Create Shapes from Vector Outlines"

Thx

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creativescrollworks wrote:Does vCarve Desktop v9 support "Create Shapes from Vector Outlines"

Thx

It does not..

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Here is one similar which I have worked into VCarve 8.5 and carved on my machine. It is a cat face for a bird house.

I just carved 3/4" premium pine by cutting down .125 & .250 on various items. Such as the nose first then carved the cheeks below the nose for the whiskers along with the eyelids, then carved the mouth area and eye sockets along with the eyebrows. Then cut the whole area out. Several Toolpaths along with time and patience and this is what I was able to achieve!
cat face.jpg
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