Lithophane creation

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Lithophane creation

Postby rab3rd » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:54 pm

Maybe Im missing it, but Lithophane creation is now possible in vcarve pro (desktop as well) and I see the lithophane preview function in the tool path preview but I dont see how to create it in the first place. In aspire you do it on the model page, I dont see that in Pro.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby mohamed » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:07 am

The software only provides the ability to visualize the toolpath preview on a Lithophane. Even though we don't provide the ability to convert an image to a relief in VCarve, we can import clipart / STL and manipulate them (invert and adjust the height) so you can use on a Lithophane for example. How you get to a sensible model is up to you (and as far the toolpath preview is concerned is irrelevant) which we've done this way to keep it flexible for different use cases. I hope this makes sense :)

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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby rab3rd » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:01 pm

Your website is misleading then, the comparison chart shows "create lithophane" the same way it does for aspire. Thankfully my upgrade to V10 was free, but had I been purchasing the upgrade on the idea that I could create them as your comparison chart implies, I would have been very upset. As it is I am very disappointed.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby mohamed » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:31 pm

As far as I'm aware, we've never said anything about Lithophane creation in VCarve, but only Lithophane Preview / Simulation. That's what the V10 fearure is. The model creation process is up to you and your particular software's capabilities and we never said otherwise. Sorry that that was misunderstood. It is never our intention to mislead or up-sell anything. The Trial Editions are also always available to try features before buying.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby rab3rd » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:46 pm

Image

screen shot from your website.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby AdamJ » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:53 pm

Hi rab3rd

Thanks for pointing this out to us. We would really not like to sell something on false pretenses and this mistake of lithophane preview mode vs lithophane creation is an entirely honest one. If anybody were to upgrade on the basis of this feature then we would be more than happy to discuss that with them. I will remove that feature from the website as soon as I am back in the office.

In the meantime I hope this issue hasn't taken away too much enjoyment of the new version for you.

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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby rab3rd » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:54 pm

Additionally, reading your response again and it seem a bit abrasive. Im just pointing out that vectric is implying that lithophane creation is possible in Vcarve, and photo cave as well, by way of the feature comparison chart. Vectric might want to consider revising that chart or adding a foot note. It clearly says "lithophane CREATION" not "Lithophane preview" or "Lithophane simulation". I think the software is great and Ive never had a bad experience with Vectric, but this is misleading and Im just pointing it out.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby rab3rd » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:57 pm

Adam, thanks for the reply. Im only disappointed in that I dont get this feature, I understand its an honest mistake. It happens. I was excited as I have been wanting to try this and I will do it other ways now. I was just trying to point it out. Again Im happy with my software and thankful for the upgrade for free.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby gkas » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:58 pm

rab3rd wrote:Additionally, reading your response again and it seem a bit abrasive.


Huh? :?
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby AdamJ » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:03 pm

All fair points and we'd absolutely want to fix it before somebody buys the software on that basis. Thanks again and enjoy the upgrade! Hopefully there are other new features to get excited about. :D
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby adze_cnc » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:08 pm

One column missing from the website screenshot is for "Photo VCarve" (PVC) which has a check next to "Lithophane Creation".

When viewing the product page for PVC is the quote:
PhotoVCarve is included with VCarve Desktop Version 10, VCarve Pro Version 10, and Aspire Version 10.


As PVC can create lithophanes and PVC is included with VCarve then in a round-about way VCarve can create a lithophanes---not directly within VCarve but with the included PVC program.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby mohamed » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:11 pm

rab3rd wrote:Additionally, reading your response again and it seem a bit abrasive.


My intent wasn't to be abrasive at all. What I had in mind was the What's New video rather than the comparison page thus my response. Thanks again for pointing this out.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby ezurick » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:43 am

Not trying to stir the fire here... but I believe his remark about "abrasive" refers to you saying this...


mohamed wrote:As far as I'm aware, we've never said anything about Lithophane creation in VCarve, but only Lithophane Preview / Simulation. ...Mohamed



That was rather abrasive when he pointed out clearly that your website stated otherwise...


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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby Xxray » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:40 am

Vectric staff clearly made an error in listing capabilities, I note the graphic in question has not changed a full 24 hours after it was pointed out. Tough to tell why the Lithophane Preview / Simulation feature is even included, seems to be nothing more than a teaser.
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Re: Lithophane creation

Postby wb9tpg » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:06 am

Xxray wrote:Vectric staff clearly made an error in listing capabilities, I note the graphic in question has not changed a full 24 hours after it was pointed out. Tough to tell why the Lithophane Preview / Simulation feature is even included, seems to be nothing more than a teaser.


I'd speculate they were working on it and only had time to get half it done before the announce date. But that's just a WAG. Honest mistakes happen all the time.
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