lost steps and other wrinkles

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NormanAlbert
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lost steps and other wrinkles

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Hi Guys: Just some tid bit of knowledge I accidentaly learned. I had the router plugged into the same power strip as the controller and computer. All wires from the motors are sheilded and straped down to minimize stray movement. I've had a problem on missed steps at any odd moment and no specific program. Replaced the Bosch router being used as I found my old (35 years old) Porter Cable trim router that still runs so smooth as compared to the fairly knew Bosch. On a whim I ran the router power cord to a sepparate outlet. It's been 2 weeks now of daily use and I haven't had a missed step issue. Do you think RF noise was causing the problem? Norman Albert in Dunnellon, Fl.

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Norman,
I'm glad to see you've smoooothed out the wrinkles.
I've never had any problems of RF noise, But I've heard others having problems with RF, Static, and other oddities.
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Hi chaps
Are we talking about the same thing here, I used Cut 3D to try this design, these lines appeared during the cut, at the end of the G-code the router returned to the missed lines and cut them smooth
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hi

i also try to find some good settings to make faster, and safer...
for settings i try some real low start and raise the acceleration... just like a car... start with slow and after started, the mass in movement i accelerate...
the most critical point is the very first step when the movement is zero and it start... any little step but it has to step..
also i did set the pulsewidth from 5 to 50 milliseconds... it makes it slower a very little but safer...
also the processor clockfrequentz play a big role in the movement... i use computer with 300 mhz... of course a modern processor with 2 gig clocksignal can carry out more step /second...

with low pulsewidht the chance alot more to loose steps...
probably the radiofrquentz also important, to shield cables...

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I just replaced my motor on my Sherline.
As, my old motor the brushes were worn and caused a lot of RF interference.
Missed steps, etc...

I was going to just replace the brushes, but I had to dismantle the whole motor and broke
the plate the brushes sit on.
Had to buy a whole new motor.

Come to find out, Sherline now has a new motor (which I bought) that does not require dismantling
the whole motor to change the brushes.
Seems a lot of people were having problems with the brush plate breaking when dismantling the whole motor.

So, I would say, yes, that the outlet could be causing interference or worn brushes.

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NormanAlbert wrote:Hi Guys: Just some tid bit of knowledge I accidentaly learned. I had the router plugged into the same power strip as the controller and computer. All wires from the motors are sheilded and straped down to minimize stray movement. I've had a problem on missed steps at any odd moment and no specific program. Replaced the Bosch router being used as I found my old (35 years old) Porter Cable trim router that still runs so smooth as compared to the fairly knew Bosch. On a whim I ran the router power cord to a sepparate outlet. It's been 2 weeks now of daily use and I haven't had a missed step issue. Do you think RF noise was causing the problem? Norman Albert in Dunnellon, Fl.
Hi Norman, I was just browsing and ran across your post. thanks, I have been having the same problem. this may help me. I have a cnc shark and running the bosch router on the same power strip. I'll try it tomorrow. Felix Brittain, Fort Myers Fl.

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