Vcarve Pro and 3d questions

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Vcarve Pro and 3d questions

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I build alot of decorative boxes I assumed vcarve pro would let me scan images vectorize the image and carve 2/2.5d raised images with 1 flat side. Is this possible or do I need cut 3d with vcarve to make this possible?

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Depend on what you mean by raised model. Vcarve can do raised machining via pockets etc. If you want true "3d" effect raised model created from vectors then you need Aspire.

Could you attach or link to a picture that shows what you want to do?

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Yes and no

yes you can scan an image - of course scaning is not a vectric capability thing.

Yes you can convert from a scanned image to a vector. Those vectors will be 2D - or like lines on paper.

Where it gets fuzzy is when you question goes from a flat 2D and goes into a "raised" image.

V-Carve can "import" toolpath from Machinist (free) or from Cut3D.

V-carve cannot create say - a 3D or "relief" of a duck or anything like that. At least not with all the curved raised 3D surfaces.

A flat duck - raised above the surface - yes. Imported toolpath from Cut3D - yes.

BTW --- Cut 3D also cannot create the 3D image.

In order to "create" the image - you need something "like" Aspire that has the capabilities to do the modeling.
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First welcome, Always good to have another craftsman to the world of Vectric. Next go to the website and watch the training videos. Time well spent and it will not only answer your questions but provide you with a wealth of motivation.

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The tutorial on the grapes where the backside is course flat and the grapes are raised 3d inside a pocketed border. Im understanding that this is a cut 3d function and that vcarve pro cannot do this type of work . Cut 3d cannot create the images it has to be imported from another source. Cut 3d cant create 3d models from 2 d images? Ill have to source 3d images for cut 3d to calculate toolpaths? Will cut 3d at least let you drag and size(scale to fit) images?

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You can scale models with Cut3D but it's not by dragging. You type in the actual sizes.

Cut3D cannot create models. It's purely a toolpath generator. If you want to create models from 2D images you need Aspire.

The best place to get models from is http://www.vectorart3d.com. You might find that you only you need the free 3D machinist program that they supply to work with their files if you're happy to use only theirs. 3D machinist files can be imported directly into VCarve.

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I think this may be the best solution for me. I don't have access to any images alrdy modeled and cut 3d
and vcarve really don't work together cut3d really will not benefit me right now. I can buy the vector art silver bundle
and use the machinist program for free?

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Actually Cut3D and 3D Machinist work with VCarve Pro the same way - you generate your toolpaths in either, then import into VCarve Pro for added functionality. Cut3D offers a bit more than 3D machinist; Tabs, muti-sided machining, slicing, importing several 3D formats, etc.
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Can cut 3d transform all the vector art into 3d models ?

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Not the ones from http://www.vectorart.com only the ones from http://www.vectorart3d.com which are already 3D models.

Cut3D can also process other 3D format such as STL which other sites such as http://www.vectorclip3d.com and http://www.3dmodelclub.com (and others) provide.

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Maybe some clarification is in order. When you mention, "vector art", are you referring to the VectorArt3d models? if so, then they are 3d relief models, made for single sided relief carvings. Cut3D and 3D Machinist will certainly generate toolpaths for these, which can be imported into VCarve Pro. Cut3D can also import full 3D models in several formats, (stl, obj, 3ds, etc) which can be sliced or cut from 1, 2 or 4 sides. I don't think the full 3D models could really be used in VCarve Pro, only the reliefs, which is all you are really looking for, if I understand your needs.

Vector art generally refers to 2D vector drawings, which can be directly used in VCarve Pro - they are not 3D models. It can be a bit confusing, as VectorArt.com and VectorArt3d.com are/were sister sites offering different products. You can see what I mean by taking a look at VectorArt.com.

Edit: Ha! I see Adrian and I were typing at the same time! :lol:
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Thanks for the reply vertorart3d is the site Ive been looking at does machinst 3d have the 2 sided capability?

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I see the vectorart are images that are flat carvings and 3d have contours. If I import a 3d image into Vcarve pro for text basically I cant merge the two operarions cut3d will have to run its program then open up vcp to run its added content to this piece?

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3D Machinist only works with the VectorArt3D relief models - there is no back side to them. However, if you want to make, say, a 2 sided sign, you wold simply generate toolpaths for both sides and run separately.
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Take a look at this page, and look at "D03 - Importing 3D Toolpaths - Multiple Objects" about half way down the page. It will explain exactly how it is done.
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