No problems John, thats what forums are for. They make us look at things we already knew differently. I ran a few router bits thru some 23gauge pins as a test with no visible damage but I still try to place them where I am less likely to go thru them. Bits is expensive! , but then I guess many things about this past time/hobby or business is expensive to a point. I like the fact that the 23gauge pins hold good but still can be pulled out from the backside once the material is pulled from the table and leave the slightest of holes that will generally fill with paint and disaapear if they are within the model.