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Randall, they all look really good! What router bit did you use and did you use a roughing pass first? How long did each ~take to cut?
I recently did some 3d carvings in red oak for a project my wife wanted for the house to go over a hall entry. I've still got one more panel to run to complete it and will post pics when it's done, but each panel, ~14" x 12" took about 4 hrs to run. I omitted the roughing pass and went in with a finishing cut with a .006 step (whew!) using an .062 round nose conical. The depth of cut was .250" and the finish and detail is excellent, but the whole process is very slow. I probably could have upped my feeds and think I could get the time down to about 3 hrs...maybe.
The 3d stuff is really fun, I love it! But I'm having a hard time trying to convince myself to offer this out as a service as it would cost a fortune for the customer. 4 hrs. of machine time doing conventional 2D work can produce quite a bit of income and parts for the same time to run the one 3D part, as in my example. Even at $50.00/hr (which is low in my opinion) a 3D part could get very expensive for the customer.
How are you pricing your 3D work? I know that quantity helps, but in 3D work, I bet a lot of it is 1's and 2's which means even more setup time and machine down time.
Just curious what others are doing in the 3D area to justify the fun.
I recently did some 3d carvings in red oak for a project my wife wanted for the house to go over a hall entry. I've still got one more panel to run to complete it and will post pics when it's done, but each panel, ~14" x 12" took about 4 hrs to run. I omitted the roughing pass and went in with a finishing cut with a .006 step (whew!) using an .062 round nose conical. The depth of cut was .250" and the finish and detail is excellent, but the whole process is very slow. I probably could have upped my feeds and think I could get the time down to about 3 hrs...maybe.
The 3d stuff is really fun, I love it! But I'm having a hard time trying to convince myself to offer this out as a service as it would cost a fortune for the customer. 4 hrs. of machine time doing conventional 2D work can produce quite a bit of income and parts for the same time to run the one 3D part, as in my example. Even at $50.00/hr (which is low in my opinion) a 3D part could get very expensive for the customer.
How are you pricing your 3D work? I know that quantity helps, but in 3D work, I bet a lot of it is 1's and 2's which means even more setup time and machine down time.
Just curious what others are doing in the 3D area to justify the fun.
Dave
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We used a 1/4" Onsrud downspiral for the roughing pass and a 1/4" CMT ballnose for the finish pass.What router bit did you use and did you use a roughing pass first?
Times in minutes:secondsHow long did each ~take to cut?
Horse: 17:20 rough, 17:20 finish
Fleur de Lis: 17:50 rough, 33:29 finish
Deer: 35:00 rough, 26:41 finish
Trout: 34:31 rough, 28:41 finish
Eagle: 34:46 rough, 34:33 finish
How are you pricing your 3D work?
We charge $100/hr for machine time. We are dealing with one large cabinet shop and several high-end small shops -- the guys who don't advertise but still have a 2 year waiting list. Our carving is part of their overall service. They present it to the customer as: "the carving adds about 5%-10% to the cost of a kitchen". The doesn't seem to scare anyone off.
V-Carve Pro and Vector Art 3D Machinist keep the setup time pretty low and we have carved each design many times before we show it to our customers.I know that quantity helps, but in 3D work, I bet a lot of it is 1's and 2's which means even more setup time and machine down time.
